{"id":66849,"date":"2024-10-14T08:57:42","date_gmt":"2024-10-14T08:57:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/meijenfeldt.nl\/?page_id=66849"},"modified":"2026-03-24T16:56:26","modified_gmt":"2026-03-24T16:56:26","slug":"2-1-admiraliteit","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/meijenfeldt.nl\/?page_id=66849","title":{"rendered":"3.2.2. Geboortedatum"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Van de stamvader is geen geboortedatum of doopdatum bekend.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In de familiepapieren staat die niet, hoewel de familie zijn geboortedatum wel bekend was en zijn verjaardag werd gevierd, getuige de <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/meijenfeldt.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/1830-Heilwensch.pdf\">Heilwensch<\/a><\/span> van zijn\u00a0 kinderen, helaas zonder dagtekening.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Aan de Nederlandse a<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">utoriteiten gaf de stamvader zijn geboortedatum niet op omdat alleen naar zijn leeftijd werd gevraagd. Dat was bijvoorbeeld voldoende om zijn meerderjarigheid bij zijn huwelijk vast te stellen. Hij had zoals gezegd geen identiteitsbewijs. In Zweden en andere gebieden werd destijds bovendien een <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">afwijkende kalender aangehouden<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">. Omdat de jaren overal even veel dagen telden, was de leeftijd betrouwbaarder en min of meer verifieerbaar aan het uiterlijk. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">De leeftijden die o<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">p offici\u00eble documenten zijn genoteerd zijn d<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">e volgende:<\/span><\/p>\n<table style=\"width: 100%; height: 253px;\">\n<tbody>\n<tr style=\"height: 27px;\">\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 34.1022%;\"><span style=\"color: #800000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong>DOCUMENT<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 32.6194%; height: 27px;\" colspan=\"2\"><span style=\"color: #800000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong>OPGAVE<\/strong><\/span><span style=\"color: #800000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 33.1137%;\" colspan=\"2\"><span style=\"color: #800000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong>GEBOORTEPERIODE<\/strong><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"height: 55px;\">\n<td style=\"height: 10px; width: 34.1022%;\"><span style=\"color: #800000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong>Gebeurtenis<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 10px; width: 17.4629%;\"><span style=\"color: #800000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong>Datum<\/strong><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 15.1565%; height: 10px;\"><span style=\"color: #800000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong>Oud<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 10px; width: 17.1335%;\"><span style=\"color: #800000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong>Na<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 10px; width: 15.9802%;\"><span style=\"color: #800000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\"><strong>V\u00f3\u00f3r<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"height: 27px;\">\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 34.1022%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Ondertrouw C.M. Pieploo<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.4629%;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">04-12-1807\u00a0<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 15.1565%; height: 27px;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">38 jaar<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.1335%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">04-12-1768<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 15.9802%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">04-12-1769<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"height: 27px;\">\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 34.1022%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Liste Civiques<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.4629%;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">01-07-1811\u00a0<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 15.1565%; height: 27px;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">43 jaar<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.1335%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">01-07-1768<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 15.9802%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">01-07-1769<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"height: 27px;\">\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 34.1022%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Doop Antonetta<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.4629%;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">14-07-1812\u00a0<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 15.1565%; height: 27px;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">52 jaar<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.1335%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">14-07-1759<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 15.9802%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">14-07-1760<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"height: 27px;\">\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 34.1022%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Overlijden Antonetta<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.4629%;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">14-06-1814\u00a0<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 15.1565%; height: 27px;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">52 jaar<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.1335%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">14-06-1761<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 15.9802%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">14-06-1762<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"height: 27px;\">\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 34.1022%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Overl. Antonetta Juliana<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.4629%;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">07-01-1828\u00a0<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 15.1565%; height: 27px;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">59 jaar<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.1335%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">07-01-1768<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 15.9802%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">07-01-1769<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"height: 27px;\">\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 34.1022%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Volkstelling Rotterdam<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.4629%;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">16-11-1829\u00a0<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 15.1565%; height: 27px;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">63 jaar<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.1335%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">16-11-1765\u00a0<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 15.9802%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">16-11-1766<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"height: 27px;\">\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 34.1022%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Overlijden Johan August<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.4629%;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">02-06-1835\u00a0<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 15.1565%; height: 27px;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">74 jaar<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 17.1335%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">02-06-1760<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"height: 27px; width: 15.9802%;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">02-06-1761<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"height: 27px;\">\n<td style=\"width: 34.1022%; height: 27px;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">Brief Carl aan Helsingfors<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 17.4629%; height: 27px;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">10-08-1876\u00a0<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 15.1565%; height: 27px;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;\">&#8220;in 1760&#8221;<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 17.1335%; height: 27px;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">01-01-1760<\/span><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 15.9802%; height: 27px;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt; font-family: georgia, palatino, serif;\">31-12-1760<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">De opgaven van z<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">oon Carl leiden tot de laatste zeven maanden in 1760. Slechts \u00e9\u00e9n opgave van de stamvader overlapt daarmee van <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">2 juni en 14 juli 1760.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Een nauwkeuriger datum of periode komt niet te voorschijn. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Bij zijn huwelijk was zijn bruid dus 24 jaar jonger en maakte hij zich negen jaar jonger.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Blijven over\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">de kerkboeken of stadsarchieven<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> i<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">n Stralsund. Daarin is noch de geboorte noch de doop van de stamvader aangetroffen. Dat kan komen omdat die niet compleet zijn, omdat hij in \u00e9\u00e9n van de talrijke dorpjes buiten de vesting werd geboren of gedoopt of omdat hij aanvankelijk een andere achternaam droeg, bijvoorbeeld die zijn moeder.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000; font-size: 10pt;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a id=\"voetnoot\"><\/a><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/meijenfeldt.nl\/?page_id=76561\">Terug<\/a>\u00a0<\/span> \u00a0***\u00a0 \u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/meijenfeldt.nl\/?page_id=76558\">Verder<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Van de stamvader is geen geboortedatum of doopdatum bekend.\u00a0In de familiepapieren staat die niet, hoewel de familie zijn geboortedatum wel bekend was en zijn verjaardag werd gevierd, getuige de Heilwensch van zijn\u00a0 kinderen, helaas zonder dagtekening.\u00a0Aan de Nederlandse autoriteiten gaf de stamvader zijn geboortedatum niet op omdat alleen naar zijn leeftijd werd gevraagd. Dat was &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/meijenfeldt.nl\/?page_id=66849\" class=\"more-link\">Verder lezen <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">3.2.2. 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